wow, did you speak my mind? perry
Waterlifearts.com
Perry Conley
311 West St.
Amherst MA 01002
413-253-0509
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From: "vickeyspore" <vickeyspore@yahoo.com>
To: "artshow photo" <artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 3:42:55 PM
Subject: [artshow_photo] Re: Mad At Photographers
Yes Peter & Ron,
It is silly. I do both. I paint, did graphic illustration and commercial- while I was in Advertising management. And I've photographed as well. For nearly 35 + yrs. Now, the economy has a downturn, yes. But, I've always done art - while working a fulltime position. Many times the fulltime position, did not give me the opportunity to work on my own "body of work", but if one is in either type of talent area, and they BOTH take talent and education to do well; it's all subjective. This is why perhaps many of the 'old school - pre-computer' talents get upset; I feel. Things have changed, like all fields. The competition field has expanded for others to participate. It's made it tougher for ALL of us.
But, both takes good talent in whatever they do, and should always be respected and not looked- down upon.
I am a believer in the best turning out, if the work is being done. I do not travel full-time as an artist/photographer to make a living. I work an administrative job, in another specific field to pay the bills. I worked in advertising many years, and grew tired of the fighting, the ego's, the back stabbing. And just wanted to be free, and paint and photograph. That - took about 10 yrs to change careers, traveling to about 4 different states before finding the best fit.
If some are not happy with being next to either talent, painter, bead artist, photographer, or whatever. Maybe, perhaps they should just change the scenery. Respect, those at all times whom do what we value. And, be respectful more so of themselves. That is where true art begins, from the inside to the outside.
Peace - and Cheers, to those whom understand.
Keep creative thinking going, it's the little bit of spiritual we all have left.
VHluchanek-Monan
www.NAMESTEDesigns.com
--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com , Perry Conley <pconley311@...> wrote:
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> Surprising what a nerve this hit!
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> Waterlifearts.com
> Perry Conley
> 311 West St.
> Amherst MA 01002
> 413-253-0509
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronald Frazier" <ldkronos@...>
> To: "artshow photo" < artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com >
> Sent: Saturday, October 9, 2010 8:46:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] RE: Mad At Photographers
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> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Sálongo Lee < salongosart@... > wrote:
> > What really galls me is that these same ARTISTS will use a camera to
> > capture an image or several images and then create their painting.
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> But don't count on these artists to faithfully paint their picture
> like they photographed it (flaws, lack of dramatic lighting, and all).
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> You know, I've been lucky enough to have never spoken with one of the
> painters who feels that way about photography, but if I ever do, I'm
> tempted just to turn the tables on them. Tell them how easy they have
> it...all they have to do is imagine a picture and paint it however
> they want it to look. In fact, they don't even need imagination...all
> they have to do is watch a Travel Channel documentary on Italy and
> then just throw some paint on the canvas. When they try to defend
> themselves with how much skill it takes to paint, I'd just chuck and
> say "Please, Bob Ross teaches you how to do that crap in 30 minutes".
> I'm sure it would burn their ass :-) There's no point trying to
> educate these people so you might as well have fun with them.
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> --
> Ron
> Ronald Frazier Photography - http://www.ronfphoto.com/
> Blogging About Photography - http://ronfrazier.blogspot.com/
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