Oh man Van - I'm a little moist after reading that. My main problem now is
that I have images that take me forever to find even with my somewhat antiquated
system. It all seemed so easy when I began but as this little career change
keeps growing my current database system (my brain) is losing track of single
images.
Ordered CS5 upgrade and LR 3 30% off last night! Now I have two things to run
to the mail box for.
CS5/LR3 and Strat-O-Matic Baseball! LOL
Melotte Photo Imagery
Photography With an Edge
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From: G. Armour Van Horn <vanhorn@whidbey.com>
To: artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 11:14:28 AM
Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] Re: CS5 vs. Lightroom or PLUS LightRoom
That seems odd. The reason the database image management of LR is so
strongly appealing is the fantastic amount of complexity it eliminates.
If I'm even remotely clever I can name the files and embed keywords
during the import operation such that any future use of the files
becomes almost trivial. For example, I generally include the client name
in the filename, along with the title of the work or the product. If
it's a headshot or booth shot I put that in the keywords. So if George
Brunjes (a local chocolatier who also happens to be an occasional public
speaker on an unrelated topic) asks me to send his publicity shot to
some conference it's just a matter of using the "any text field" search
(always one click away, if it's not already on screen) for "GB" and
"head". Out of thousands of images, in a matter of seconds (single-digit
seconds) I have a contact sheet array of all the shots from both
portrait sessions with him, I note which one is flagged, click on it,
enter Control+Shift+E, set the export options requested (size, sRGB vs
Adobe 1998, quality, etc.), and I'm done.
This wasn't all that impressive when I had thousands of image spread
around my network and dozens of images in LightRoom, but everything I've
shot since the beta has gone into LR and now I wouldn't want to live
without it. No, I didn't suck all of the existing images in, only the
ones that had a future. (Actually the shoots involving work that would
have a future.)
I haven't done it yet, but one of these days I'll remember to pull up
all the images of stuff I've sold on eBay and delete them. But as they
aren't on screen, because of the powerful filtering, it hasn't seemed
even vaguely important.
To make a long story short, LR is all about eliminating complexity from
your workflow.
Van
On 04/02/2011 8:54 AM, J Bryan Kramer wrote:
> Yeah, I occasionally feel that tug too but adding more complexity to my
> workflow is the anodyne for that feeling.
>
> BK
>
>
> ""Only the print contains the artist's meaning and message." "
> ----- Ansel Adams
>
> J Bryan Krämer North Florida, USA
> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
> blog at: http://www.photoburner.net
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 11:50, Rod Melotte<grinder12000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> What is drawing me to Light Room is it's database function! As BK, I do a
>> lot
>> of layers and masking which can not be done in LR but I'm loving the
>> database
>> ability of which is starting to be a problem with finding things!
>>
>>
>> Rod
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: J Bryan Kramer<codeburner@gmail.com>
>> To: artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com
>> Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 10:04:13 AM
>> Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] Re: CS5 vs. Lightroom or PLUS LightRoom
>>
>> I haven't felt the need to use LR, I do a lot of work in ACR but on maybe a
>> third of my images I spend quite a bit of time in CS5. Layers and masking
>> are still very important and cannot be done in ACR or LR as far as I know.
>> There is some limited capability with adjustment brushes but they are very
>> minimal for precise work.
>>
>> BK
>>
>> Where did you find CS6 by the way? heh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ""Only the print contains the artist's meaning and message." "
>> ----- Ansel Adams
>>
>> J Bryan Krämer North Florida, USA
>> photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
>> blog at: http://www.photoburner.net
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:40, michael cothran
>> <michaelhcothran@comcast.net>wrote:
>>
>>> I think that photographers are working more in LR and ACR (or Aperture or
>>> Phocus or Capture 1 etc etc) and less in PS than before. I doubt that PS
>>> will ever be completely abandoned as there are still too many
>> applications
>>> within PS that cannot be done elsewhere. But as RAW converters become
>> more
>>> advanced in their technology and tools, less work will be needed in PS.
>>> It's interesting how Adobe has turned out lately, offering ACR, LR, and
>> PS,
>>> all under the same roof. Thomas Knoll (PS creator) once disclosed to Jeff
>>> Schewe in an interview that he has two totally separate groups of
>> engineers
>>> and designers working in ACR and LR, with a green light for each
>> department
>>> for advancements.
>>> For some reason, I chose to work in ACR over LR when I purchased CS3. But
>>> LR is more advanced in certain areas to the point where I will purchase
>> it
>>> when upgrading to CS6.
>>> Since I shoot with a Hasselblad, I also have access to their RAW
>> converter,
>>> called Phocus. It, too, is a powerful application, as is Aperture, but
>>> somewhere it comes down to chosing one over another, and going with it.
>> LR
>>> and PS make a compatible marriage. So does ACR and PS.
>>> As they say on another forum - "different horses for different courses."
>>> Michael H. Cothran
>>>
>>>
>>>
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