Everyone's entitled to his or her own opinion. But I think you're contradicting your own point. Artists who take the time to learn, and have the skill to operate, softwares such as Corel, PS and Lightroom are not unlike painters or other "hand-artists" that you mentioned. I consider myself fairly skilled with the softwares that I have learned, but it has taken years of practice. It's not just a matter of pushing buttons and moving a mouse. I find that often the biggest opponents of digitally enhanced images are those who haven't taken the time and effort to learn how to do it themselves. As I've said before, lots of people can take a digital camera and make a good photograph right out of the camera. More than 50% of my images are such. But I often like to enhance the image using the skills that I have learned. And thus they are photographic art, IMHO.
Tracy R. Willis
www.tracywillis.com
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From: "hellashot" <k6@earthling.net>
To: "artshow photo" <artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2011 5:08:26 PM
Subject: [artshow_photo] Re: When does a photo stop being a photo?
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> With today's technology, anyone off the street can take a good photo. But it takes a true artist to make photographic art. Matters not to me if they do it pre or post shutter.
I think it matters a lot whether it's done before or after the capture. "Post" and you have all the time in the world as well as ability to copy and paste and even modify what is in the scene all at your leisure. Which is more of a technician "photoshop technician" thing. But creating an attractive scene (or finding it) and getting the right light (or providing it) at the time of capture is a far more skilled endeavor because you're working in the "real" world. Not in the computer world.
Photographers (with digital) have taken a hit as being "artists" because the consensus of many is that photographers are doing everything under the sun in photoshop to make something average look way beyond reality, enhancing it to no end. And that often it's computer filters that ANYONE can buy can do it. Compare that with by-hand artists such as painters, sketch artists, sculptors, wood workers who all work with their medium in their hands and not with a computer mouse with automated adjustments and enhancements.
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