Re: [artshow_photo] Re: When does a photo stop being a photo?

Images produced with light but without a camera are generally called
photograms.

And you can use a pinhole to produce a photograph, no lens required.
Personally I think I'd say a formal definition of photography is:

An visual representation produced by projecting an image onto a sensitive
media which can be film or a digital sensor.

You know now I think about a formal photograph, ie a print is no longer
required. Most photographs are in digital form only.

BK

""Only the print contains the artist's meaning and message." "
----- Ansel Adams

J Bryan Krämer North Florida, USA
photos at: http://pbase.com/photoburner
blog at: http://www.photoburner.net

On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 19:28, G. Armour Van Horn <vanhorn@whidbey.com>wrote:

> Further, you don't need a lens. You just need some image-forming optical
> element, which can be a simple lens, a complex multiple-element lens, a
> mirror (the vast majority of telescopes are actually telescopic cameras
> with a mirror as the primary or only image-forming element), or a hole
> drilled in a piece of wood.
>
> For that matter, I wonder if a painter hung a blank a blank canvas on
> the back wall of a camera obscura and then painted the pattern of the
> image that fell there, would that be photography? Or is the crucial
> element that the light actually writes the image, in which case a
> computer/numerically controlled laser etching into a block of wood could
> make a claim to be photography.
>
>

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