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> I am wondering whether the Velvet Fine Art paper, with its fragile surface, will hold up as well to the public taking out and putting back the foam core-backed prints in the print bin. I suspect a mat would help protect the print surface somewhat more than the clearbag would. Or maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.
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Yes, since I wrote this I am thinking the same thing about the fragility of the velvet fine art and am thinking of using Hahnemeuhle photo rag, which has a much smoother surface. I am working out color management issues with my new 3880, and will need to get a custom icc profile made for my new Epson paper. I had everything dialed in on my 2400 and now it is like starting fresh.

Interesting about the sales. I will be offering large frames pieces as well. Guess if the fly out of the booth ; -), then I can replace them with my bagged prints. Guess it is time to stock up on Aaron Bros frames at their July sale.

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I am wondering whether the Velvet Fine Art paper, with its fragile surface, will hold up as well to the public taking out and putting back the foam core-backed prints in the print bin. I suspect a mat would help protect the print surface somewhat more than the clearbag would. Or maybe I'm wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.

By the way, at a recent show I sold virtually no smaller prints, with large, framed pieces making up most of my sales. The middle class who used to buy prints on a whim are holding onto their money, but the "professional class" still has money and is willing to spend. Of course, that result was location-specific, and shows in different locations will have different results.

Lee Rentz
Shelton, WA
http://leerentz.wordpress.com (blog)

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Thanks for all of the suggestions about selling my photos without mats. I think that I have come down to printing on Epson velvet fine art and producing three sizes of prints - 6x9, 10x15 and 20x131/2. Each will fit into a standard frame - 12x16, 16x20, and 22x28. I think I will mat the 6x9 but offer the other two on acid free foam core as a stiffiner.

The last question - what suggestions do folks have to attach the print to the foam core so that it will stay centered in the Clear Bag? Is there something that could just be "dotted" into the two upper corners but would also allow the print to be easily removed from the foam core by the buyer without damaging the print? I think that hinging tape would show, right? In my perfect world there would be a sort of glue or adhesive that could be easily applied and which would allow someone to remove the print without harm. Am I dreaming??

Thanks SO much to all of you! My first show is coming up and there are so many decisions to make!!!

Barbara Lee
www.barbaraleephotography.com

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> Brian you are right on...

Dave:

Thank you. I have no real advice or counsel for you, just a few words of
encouragement. I'll remind you though that it's always possible to find reasons to
not act.

The idea of having fifty thousand images though...I can't imagine how that feels.

Surely they must be a sort of motivation in themselves right?

Brian Yarvin
Author, Educator, Photographer
http://www.brianyarvin.com

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--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com, "Workingintheusa" <americanproject2001@...> wrote:
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> Very good point! We often forget that if we take great photos of a place, then more people are apt to go there to experience the beauty. It is a win win for everyone (except for nature that is trampled and disrupted by our human activity)

Well, I am encouraged that you are at least receptive to clear thinking, but I see we still have work to do on the environmentalist
propaganda that is cluttering up your mind.

Stay tuned and we will bring you all the way home.

Alex Demyan

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Very good point! We often forget that if we take great photos of a place, then more people are apt to go there to experience the beauty. It is a win win for everyone (except for nature that is trampled and disrupted by our human activity)

--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com, Deb Booth <debs_b_@...> wrote:
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> Thank you for expanding on your thoughts regarding philanthropy as it relates to public parks - I appreciate hearing more about what goes into your process for determining who will receive the benefits of your donations and largesse.
> Carry on!
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> Light and laughter,
> Deb Booth
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can you explain the film you use and how you mount to tile?

On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:46 AM, Sálongo Lee <salongosart@gmail.com> wrote:

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Quote- "Put them in clear Bags with
foam core cut to size and your business card and brochure behind the
foam
core on the back side so its visible.".

Are you mounting the piece on the foamboard or just putting it in the
bag for rigidity to prevent damage to print? I am brand new with my
first show in 3 weekd and trying to decide how to sell prints. Thanks

John Hunsucker

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Hi,
By all means sell your prints with out mats. Put them in clear Bags with
foam core cut to size and your business card and brochure behind the foam
core on the back side so its visible. Serious collectors and just your
average buyer will by the work with any hesitation. They are buying the
image because they like it not becasue the mat matches the couch. You get to
reduce your inventory cost and increase your profit. I personal only mat
8x10 but lately I've been selling a few on matted and sell my my pano prints
ummatted. Everything 11x14 and upwards is sold unmatted except for a few
11x14" I frame for the gallery I belong to. The few festivals I do
I hang unmatted prints on the pro panels and they sell just fine. That's
just me I travel with very little glass/framed work. Most of my images are
mounted on wood panels and image printed on aluminum and other metal or
clear film that are mounted on ceramic tiles.

Give it a try and see how your sales are.

Selling prints without mats
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I am trying to decide how to offer my fine art prints for sale in the bins.
I had originally thought that I would mat them and put them in Clear Bags.
But after reading some discussion online, it seems that serious
photographers are simply putting the finished prints into the clear bags
with a stiffiner like acid free foam core or mat board and then letting the
customer decide later how to matt/frame them.

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Sálongo Lee
Sálongo's Art, LLC
http://salongosart.com
Natchez Studio: 601.620.0569
SF Bay Area: 510.863.4ART

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Thank you for expanding on your thoughts regarding philanthropy as it relates to public parks - I appreciate hearing more about what goes into your process for determining who will receive the benefits of your donations and largesse.
Carry on!

Light and laughter,
Deb Booth

Different Light Studio - Your World in a Different Light
http://www.differentlightstudio.com
Catch my work on FaceBook: facebook.com/DifferentLightStudioStoreSubscribe to my free newsletter: https://www.mynewsletterbuilder.com/tools/subscription.php?username=differentlightstudio&newsletter_id=1410766807

Your world... in a 'Different Light' - 4 Videos on YouTube - Meditation/Relaxation/Calgon-Take-Me-Away
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwdEp8m7TPY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iSyQcnbDaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQT1wEnePg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwgVL4Hh2MI

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From: aldemyan@cox.net
Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 14:50:46 +0000
Subject: [artshow_photo] Re: Property ownership issue???

--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com, Deb Booth <debs_b_@...> wrote:

> I consider myself a serious photographer, and I regularly donate items and images to groups I support.>

Everybody donates work for one reason or another.

My response was specifically regarding public parks, which have advertising budgets.

I assure you the printers, graphic designers, ad agencies, publications, etc. are not waiving their fees in lieu of karma points.

I personally have done thousands of dollars of business with state and national parks, and have also made thousands of dollars licensing photographs that I took inside public parks.

When I license a park photograph that , let's say, illustrates a magazine article, that particular park ( and to a lesser degree public parks in general) receives thousands of dollars of free advertising, and I make a few hundred dollars. I would argue that it is a win-win situation and not the one-sided affair that Mr. Cochran describes.

Even if you display a framed print and title it "Acadia National Park" you are advertising for that park.

So, if you are serious about profiting from your photography, examine your philanthropy guidelines very carefully.

Alex Demyan



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--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com, Deb Booth <debs_b_@...> wrote:

> I consider myself a serious photographer, and I regularly donate items and images to groups I support.>

Everybody donates work for one reason or another.

My response was specifically regarding public parks, which have advertising budgets.
I assure you the printers, graphic designers, ad agencies, publications, etc. are not waiving their fees in lieu of karma points.

I personally have done thousands of dollars of business with state and national parks, and have also made thousands of dollars licensing photographs that I took inside public parks.

When I license a park photograph that , let's say, illustrates a magazine article, that particular park ( and to a lesser degree public parks in general) receives thousands of dollars of free advertising, and I make a few hundred dollars. I would argue that it is a win-win situation and not the one-sided affair that Mr. Cochran describes.

Even if you display a framed print and title it "Acadia National Park" you are advertising for that park.

So, if you are serious about profiting from your photography, examine your philanthropy guidelines very carefully.

Alex Demyan

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> You print up the Avery labels yourself?

Yes. That's the easiest way to handle it. If you use an inkjet, make sure you get inkjet compatible labels. If you use a laser, then use laser labels.

You can get small sheets of 5 labels in some sizes, so that you can print a few at a time, when you don't need a whole sheet of labels. I use Avery 5436 quite a bit.

Jim Parker
parkerparker :: design | photography
http://www.parkerparker.info
@dakkid / twitter

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> What is COA?

Certificate of Authenticity. Answered in the last thread, which goes on and on and on about limited editions.

Jim Parker
parkerparker :: design | photography
http://www.parkerparker.info
@dakkid / twitter

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