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Glad someone agrees!

I think the 72 comes for SO many books that tell you that in order to make a
photo small enough for the internet it must be no more then 72dpi - of course
that was back when everyone had dial-ups!

500 wide it is - thanks!

Rod
Melotte Photo Imagery
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From: David Kachel <david@davidkachel.com>
To: artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 8:23:52 PM
Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] Re: Facebook pictures issues

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Call me whacky but I encourage people to use my imags as backgrounds. If
someone is going to steal something on Facebook and print it from a 72dpi
image
- they probebly are not going to buy anything anyway. Plus by telling
"friends"
that I don't mind it sends good will and could actually HELP sell an image.

This is called "smart marketing". It costs you nothing and gets your work in
front of more faces.

David Kachel

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>>>

Call me whacky but I encourage people to use my imags as backgrounds. If
someone is going to steal something on Facebook and print it from a 72dpi
image
- they probebly are not going to buy anything anyway. Plus by telling
"friends"
that I don't mind it sends good will and could actually HELP sell an image.

This is called "smart marketing". It costs you nothing and gets your work in
front of more faces.

David Kachel

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david@davidkachel.com

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director@reddoorfinephotographs.com

PO Box 1893
Alpine, TX 79831
(432) 386-5787

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Again. Resolution isn't an issue. Stop thinking
it can define what they can do with it. Only
actual pixels means anything. You can change the
image from 72PPI to 300PPI non destructively as
long as you don't change the number of pixels.

The only thing that matters is that you give them
enough pixels to do what they want with your
image, which is why it should be limited in (long pixel dimensions) size.

Larry

>Call me whacky but I encourage people to use my imags as backgrounds. If
>someone is going to steal something on Facebook
>and print it from a 72dpi image
>- they probebly are not going to buy anything
>anyway. Plus by telling "friends"
>that I don't mind it sends good will and could actually HELP sell an image.
>
>
>Part of selling is being likable and trust worthy - I give them a "gift" and
>they return the favor. Seems to work.

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Call me whacky but I encourage people to use my imags as backgrounds.  If
someone is going to steal something on Facebook and print it from a 72dpi image
- they probebly are not going to buy anything anyway.  Plus by telling "friends"
that I don't mind it sends good will and could actually HELP sell an image.

Part of selling is being likable and trust worthy - I give them a "gift" and
they return the favor.  Seems to work.

Rod

www.melottephotoimagery.com
 Melotte Photo Imagery
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Sent: Mon, January 31, 2011 7:39:52 PM
Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] Re: Facebook pictures issues

 
I have done plenty of "good printing" at 180 ppi or less. In some
cases as low as 120, and prints as large as 20x30 using Epson
printers. Some labs may not be able to print below 300 ppi, but
certainly not all. I'd stick with Larry's advice.

-Steve

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:13 PM, G. Armour Van Horn wrote:

> Remember that doing a good printing job requires at least 200 dpi, and
> most of us use a lot more than that, so your 900 pixel wide image is
> only good for printing really small stuff..
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I have done plenty of "good printing" at 180 ppi or less. In some
cases as low as 120, and prints as large as 20x30 using Epson
printers. Some labs may not be able to print below 300 ppi, but
certainly not all. I'd stick with Larry's advice.

-Steve

On Jan 31, 2011, at 8:13 PM, G. Armour Van Horn wrote:

> Remember that doing a good printing job requires at least 200 dpi, and
> most of us use a lot more than that, so your 900 pixel wide image is
> only good for printing really small stuff..
>
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PPI - DPI....Pixels per inch, Dots per inch. Pixels in relation to using mainly in visual context, projection, looking at things in photoshop etc. Dots when images are transferred into the print production process to print on regular (old days) type printing presses.
 
The size- if you have a 8 x 10 image size at 72 DPI-(dots per inch), 72 PPI -(pixels per inch), usually it is used in screen images for websites, in relation to what is requested.
They can still take an 8 x 10, reduce it to a smaller size (say hypothetically) like a 3 x 5 inch, and the 72 DPI/PPI will now be increased. You've got more dots/pixels to go around because the image area is smaller...Not sure if this makes sense.
 
Nor, am I sure what they are teaching the Arts folks in the University/College areas today. Seems like when photoshop took off (twenty years back...I'm old) and then things were not done the old way, and then all the youngsters went to the computer in graphics---some of the technology was left behind a bit.
 
Call the show- ask questions, and if in doubt, put a copyright ghosted image on your image to protect it.
 
I hope I did not confuse anyone. And, if I am wrong- then my old brain cells are failing me.
Please, forgive anything I might have left out. Send it, with a RETURN postage CD/DVD container, and REQUEST they send the darn thing back to you.
 
Common sense goes ALONG way....

Thank you.
 
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Remember that doing a good printing job requires at least 200 dpi, and
most of us use a lot more than that, so your 900 pixel wide image is
only good for printing really small stuff. If it takes that many pixels
to look good on screen, I'd say upload that many pixels. The possibility
that someone might print out a six-inch wide panorama to stick above
their monitor isn't, in my ever-so-humble opinion, likely to cut into
any actual sales.

Put a copyright bug with your name or website at the lower right corner,
in a way that's legible but not destructive, and be happy.

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On 31/01/2011 4:16 PM, Margaret wrote:
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> Thanks, Larry -- I used to include a copyright watermark but got so
> much grief from some people who felt it interfered with their
> enjoyment of the pictures that I stopped. I do (usually, although I
> actually forgot to do it on this one)include a text digital signature
> for whatever that's worth.
> I'll use the 500px guideline in the future and see what happens. I
> think actually most of my posted pictures have probably been below
> that and this one sneaked in because it's long and skinny and it just
> seemed too small if I downsized it any more!
>

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Thanks, Larry -- I used to include a copyright watermark but got so much grief from some people who felt it interfered with their enjoyment of the pictures that I stopped. I do (usually, although I actually forgot to do it on this one)include a text digital signature for whatever that's worth.
I'll use the 500px guideline in the future and see what happens. I think actually most of my posted pictures have probably been below that and this one sneaked in because it's long and skinny and it just seemed too small if I downsized it any more!

--- In artshow_photo@yahoogroups.com, Larry Berman <larry@...> wrote:
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> Hi Joan,
>
> Incorrect. Go back a few posts and read my response to the Electronic
> Gallery Submissions thread. Resolution is irrelevant and can be
> changed non destructively. The only important numbers are the height
> and width in pixels.
>
> I never put an image on the web over 500 pixels long dimension and
> ALWAYS include a copyright as a text layer in the image.
>
> Larry
>
>
> >I believe that if you post your photo at 72 dpi (just like you would on your
> >website) then it will not be "printable quality" & thus not be printable for
> >someone on Facebook. I would not think that any Facebook mechanisms could
> >change the fact that you uploaded an image that you resized to only 72 dpi.
> > For a printable image you would want your image to be 240 - 300 dpi.
>
>
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Hi Joan,

Incorrect. Go back a few posts and read my response to the Electronic
Gallery Submissions thread. Resolution is irrelevant and can be
changed non destructively. The only important numbers are the height
and width in pixels.

I never put an image on the web over 500 pixels long dimension and
ALWAYS include a copyright as a text layer in the image.

Larry

>I believe that if you post your photo at 72 dpi (just like you would on your
>website) then it will not be "printable quality" & thus not be printable for
>someone on Facebook. I would not think that any Facebook mechanisms could
>change the fact that you uploaded an image that you resized to only 72 dpi.
> For a printable image you would want your image to be 240 - 300 dpi.

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Facebook has recently been implementing a "download in high resolution" option for pictures. At one point I understood that if you didn't upload a "high resolution" picture, the high resolution download wasn't available. But last week when I uploaded a picture (I use my Facebook page to tease collectors on upcoming new photos)that I though was sufficiently low resolution (about 900px by 250px)I got the "download in high resolution" option automatically applied. Incidentally, picture uploaded two days previously did not have that option. I think they were roughly 400px by 300px -- maybe that's my answer?

I have been searching high and low (no pun intended) for the forum discussion where I initially read about this (I thought it was connected to Facebook help)but I can't find it -- I'm trapped in an endless Facebook loop that only says "oh goody you can now upload in high resolution for better pictures" or something to that effect.

Can anyone offer any help on where to find such a discussion and/or something on what Facebook considers sufficient low res not to matter?

Please, no comments about the dangers of posting on Facebook. I'm aware of them, assume a certain amount of risk and am trying to minimize it.

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Don't we all wish. Upgrade for $200 vs $300.

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Subject: Re: [artshow_photo] Upgrading Software

Wait a minute - I have CS3 - are you saying I can get CS4 (or 5) for like $100?

Rod

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Go to the Adobe website and check on the upgrade options. My recollection is
that one pays about $100 more for the upgrade if you are more than 1 version
behind. I use most of the Production Suite so I keep up to date, mostly when I
hear that I'm about to be 2 versions behind is when I order the version just
ahead of me. Maybe sooner if there's a feature I can't live without, but that's
not very common now.
Terry

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From: michael cothran <michaelhcothran@comcast.net>
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Sent: Fri, January 28, 2011 2:17:28 PM
Subject: [artshow_photo] Upgrading Software

Hope this question isn't too elementary or stupid on my part, but I'd like to
know the answer.

Someone told me that you could only upgrade PS if you are within two
generations. With the advent of CS6 coming out some time this year, it would
mean that only those with CS4 or CS5 could upgrade. Is this true?

Does anyone know if this practice hold true for other softwares & applications?
For instance, Mac OS?
Thanks,
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